for the job. i think jamie dimon is perfectly suited for the job, just not right now and he's well known internationally. larry fink at blackrock, he does a lot of business around the world, is terrific. rayell brainerd, she will be a long shot for this job, but these really strong on the international economic work. people think very, very highly of her. some speculation, kelly, this is really interesting. if jack lew is named treasury secretary and there's an understanding that he's weak on the international side, there's speculation that layelle would move to a slightly higher position at treasury to fill some of the gap there. >> it's interesting and i wonder, too, practically speaking what a jack lew would look like relative to, say, a geithner. >> boy, i think it a little a little bit better work on the hill than tim geithner had.